All who believe will be baptized into the body of Christ by the Spirit (rivers of living water), and we see this in 1 Cor 12:13, Eph 4:4-6, and Romans 8:9 tells us if we don’t have the Spirit we are none of His. anyway, before Pauls conversion, he was a Pharisee. It is somewhat comforting to realise that I am not the only one getting it in the neck! ( Log Out /  There are other instances in the Bible in which believers did not finish their lives well: Ananias and Sapphira, both of whom were killed for lying publicly to Peter and to the Holy Spirit—Acts 5; King Solomon, who drifted into idolatry at the end of his life; Lot, a backslider most of his adult life, yet Peter declared him in 2 Peter 2:7 to be just (a believer); Noah, a great man of faith, but whose last recorded act was to get drunk on wine. Many scriptures bear this out. Available on Barnes & Noble and Dear Jack and all One for isreal called the Gospel or the kingdom, or the gospel of circumcision and then ours to the gentiles which is the gospel of grace or the gospel of uncircumcision. Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 1. There’s only one way- by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. You cannot save yourself. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. He preaches grace too. Hebrews 5:10: And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Those who obey the gospel by believing it receive eternal life. It gives me knowledge of the One who suffered and died on my behalf, how unappreciative or how I really don’t comprehend the magnitude of what He did, or what He suffered for me. The passage that you quote from Ezekiel also refers to physical life. Romans 10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your account. 15 What is it then? Click the book for a link to What a wicked lie that is. These people may find it hard to see their need for God’s grace because of their external performance. That promotes this, put your hand on the bible and tell me you never get sick or weaker with age…. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Do you believe Paul’s teaching of the rapture of the Body of Christ? Grace is not a teaching or a Bible school subject. Ben, welcome and thanks for your comment. She knew her heart wouldn’t hold out for much longer, and I like to think she felt compelled to make sure I was safe in Jesus before she died. Who are the unrighteous? BUT that does not prove they are not saved. 🙂 Praying for you and your ministry to continue to touch others and encourage believers and bring the lost to Christ. No, every mountain, every gorge and crevasse, low places shall be made high and every mountain shall be made low and no man will tell his brother “Know God!” God doesn’t make sense sometimes. The false gospel … “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.”. Do you believe that God wants to spend eternity with you in heaven? Tom and Bruce, you both sure hit also on how many of us have felt. Augustine also isn’t suspect because of his RC and Manichaeist (sp?) I didn’t drop out death up above on purpose. The gift of grace is by ONE man. I find it odd that the works-based gospel mongers harp on the man-centered gospel, or the seeker friendly gospel, not evidently realizing they are all in the same camp. My answer is that there is no more to the gospel than BELIEVING upon Jesus Christ as our Saviour (who He is-kyrios-God, the Messiah) and what He has done (died for our sins, buried and risen again as the Scriptures said). Not self acclaimed, nor denominationally ordained; nor entitled shepherds. The blood of Christ cleansed all my sins and by His resurrection we have completed our salvation and eternal life. And you will bring more down with you. 3. ______________________________________________________________________________________. By the gospel of God’s grace: For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. God has seen fit to communicate with us through the words of the Bible. I dug around in my Strong’s dictionary yesterday because of this discussion. I’ve been saved for a number of years and is even a minister of the gospel, but didn’t have the truths and perspectives that are being shared through this insert. As Paul declared to the Corinthians, “by this gospel are you saved.” Again, by which gospel are you saved? It’s strange bedfellows yet something that will happen in the end. God bless you all this week. They are not the same and to believe that they are brings much confusion to an understanding of the mysteries of God in Christ in the Scriptures, especially the understanding of the gospels. Be warned, do not trust these “wealth loving teachers” Trust in the Holy Spirit to reveal HS Truth to you, give your money to a poor person in need in the name of Jesus and not to these phonies who need new tires for their BMWS!!! By the way Ben, these people here do not trash anyone, yet they do take their teaching and hold it up to the light of the Scripture, judging within the professing church, as we are told to do. But I am so thankful now…. (See more in Rom 5). Some believe that all you need to do is literally "believe" in Christ Jesus and you will be saved. Get his emails and study notes! Let me ask you a question Ben: Do you still sin? But it is wrong. “Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. Hebrews 12:5-7 indicates that ALL of His children undergo discipline. Got to wonder if Nick even read his own doctrinal statement and gospel presentation and reading he see’s what is written. The two groups, Arminians and Calvinists, both have their eyes on their own works. Either you are just, or you are unjust. Paul said it was not too hard for us to where we would ask “who is going to bring Him down from heaven so that we may obey” Daniel, welcome and thanks for your comment. There have been times when I questioned. maybe a language problem? have all the gifts of healing? So, again, the LS charge is bogus! Not some secret language no one can understand. There are very clearly 2 programs and to try and make them fit as one only breeds confusion. He doesn’t say that the circumcision gospel preached is what he preaches, he says that both he and they preach the resurrection, however, their views of the significance is decidedly separate, and this is the same answer for your insistance that in II Peter 3:15 Peter says he preaches what Paul (his wisdom) preaches. [24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. She told me to trust Jesus to give me life for ever and later he would take me to heaven. If I am wrong and the only result is that people lead sanctified lives as a result of living obediently and peacefully then praise God. To me personally when I read your comment the first thing I see is to many words as someone like myself at one time ” Trying to learn what I already Know” . Paul was God’s / Jesus special chosen vessel to give us the Height, depth, width and breadth of the Love of God to us in Christ Jesus! We are as righteous as Jesus is because God gives us His very own righteousness. We are saved by grace. It is a perverse way to describe what Jesus did for us. Do any here care to comment on luke 9 v 62 (NASB) We have seen Calvinism and Lordship in many different churches and we don’t think actually that Arminians are too far from Lordship as basically it’s perseverance of the person vs. being kept by the Lord, so it seems both of those schools of thought have made God a liar (I John 5:9-13). Rom 4:2, 5, Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. 15 which is Paul’s preaching of the truth of Christ’s resurrection. I am already born again, a child of God, adopted into the family of God, I possess eternal life, I have an inheritance reserved for me, etc, etc. Wow! Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Recently, there was a documentary on TV, I think called ” The Gospel according to Bill McCartney.” As expected, it failed to show the simplicity of the gospel that secures our eternal life. They usually reference the verse about needing someone to interpret…once again, a real language! I heard T.L. Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. Personally, I don’t believe this is possible, for the LORD chastens believers for their sin and we are kept in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 12;5-7, Jude 1). Alan, you said: “Personally, I don’t believe this is possible, for the LORD chastens believers for their sin and we are kept in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 12;5-7, Jude 1).”. one of my former Assistant Pastors. This accusation is specious and groundless, for I don’t see anyone, whether Free Grace or LS, promoting or condoning lawlessness or sinful lifestyles among believers, for, after all, that is what antinomianism means. In this case, it is translated as “life.”. Plenty of Lordship teachers, pastors and church goers say they submit to His Lordship. While everyone sleeps I am awake. Paul chastised the spiritually immature church of Corinth for their lack of order, and lack of understanding in what they were doing. As for promises concerning nations and Israel and the nostalgic of Temple worship: The Glory of God will cover the Earth as the waters cover the seas! Rom 1:16, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. Able to light up our paths, give us wisdom, counsel, understanding, knowledge of Him. It is also his life and work the very example of his living and teaching. So terribly tragic that they don’t see the obvious problem here. We love all of you!! it was not until after his conversion that he learned, no good thing dwelleth in his flesh. There seems so little taught about the Bema and rewards – or loss of them. It seems you are confusing audiences with gospels. 2 Tim 1 : 13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. 2 Cor 10:12-13. anyman who experiences the grace of God can never remain the same…i see men had tried to sabotage the gospel by what they think is appealing but it has been clearly revealed.the grace message is too good for some people to see it as true. It’s the same with Him, if I do not just live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of the Lord, I do so much better. So many believe in “probation” instead of salvation. The radical gospel of grace as it is found throughout Scripture, has always had its critics. Their mission is to rescue the pure grace message from its contamination by the law. I like the translation of Shepherd; and my favorite quote “they smell like sheep” :). The true gospel of Jesus Christ; the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ, will convict the soul of sin and reveal the goodness of God’s love, mercy and grace that calls the person to confess their sin and to repent of their sin “that times of refreshing may come from the Lord into their life. Or do they boast right up until the end about their own wonderful works? What’s so special about Christ’s right hand? The true gospel produces fruit-bearing power and that fruit is the fruit of the Spirit. It is not, however, a faith void of loving response to God. Bobbie Jo, I agree with all of your points regarding tongues. thank God for the gospel of grace for it transforms men. (2) The gospel of the grace of God (Acts 20:24) emphasizes that salvation in all of its aspects is on the basis of grace rather than on some meritorious system of works. Or workers of Lawlessness? How could they preach it? The gospel of grace is the gospel and there is no other. Holly, you are right, Chuck Smith wrote in several of his books that catholics were Christian. There are many people, many audiences, many needs, many hurts, etc, but there is only one body, one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all (Eph 4:4) and only one gospel – which is the gospel of Jesus Christ. HAVE THESE MEN DENIED THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL? 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 4. There are many different "gospels" being preached in the churches today. “For IF you live according to the flesh, you WILL DIE; but IF by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you WILL LIVE. [Col 3:1-3 ESV] Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. This grace is therefore the "hope that is stored up for [them] in heaven" (v. 5), presumably something God is doing in heaven for them, and hence free from merit. What is the gospel? If the message excludes grace, or mingles law with grace as the means either of justification or sanctification (Gal 2:21; 3:1-3), or denies the fact or guilt of sin, which alone gives grace its occasion and opportunity, it is 'a different' gospel, and the preacher of it is under the anathema of God" (vv. It means another of a different kind. What must I do to be saved? To us and to you! It is all by faith in Him. Paul said in Romans 1: Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it (the gospel) is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. !” He warned believers of those who would corrupt the simplicity that is in Christ. Thank You for saving me. Curtis and holly: Some of the LS’er and Calvinist persuasion will say that Paul’s wrestling with sin in Romans 7 was BEFORE he “repented of his sins” and “made” Christ his Lord and Savior. He was having to learn the life lesson that just as Jesus saves us from Hell, He is also our Everyday Savior! A typical Christian who has fallen into formalism thinks that their external actions like church attendance and service are enough, and often neglect a real heart change that comes from encountering the living God. If my hunger is to eat apple information about apple by someone who eat does not help me. No faith. My 14 year old auntie, who died at 17 years, witnessed to me very simply. Our Perseverance?, by Dr. Tom Cucuzza, After reading that verse I simply went to the Lord in prayer and said “Lord according to what I have just read here, you will not cast me away if I come to you. Whenever you read the word “grace” in the Bible, you can substitute the name “Jesus.” Jesus is grace personified. I’ve concluded it can only be 2Cor4:4, because people can read. I noticed it first in 2Cor11:3, that the enemy likes to make things complicated and trouble our minds. How Eternal is Eternal Life and How Secure is Eternal Security? 2. works The parallel descriptions of "gospel" and "grace" as "truth" link the two as synonyms in the passage. The Gospel of the kingdom will be preached again afetr the rapture of the body of Christ (mystery) to Israel to prepare them to receive their once rejected kingdom! Secure Forever! It’s no wonder not more “lost” people aren’t interested in the Church, all they see is a bunch of finger-pointing, judgmental people telling them they need to “do, do, do”. Have you heard the everlasting gospel? Since the time I converted life is a constant struggle for me and each day a nightmare. Then we were made ‘slaves of righteousness’, when we were transferred to the ‘Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ’. They will teach all humanity the true Gospel of Sincere Repentance and a dedicated baptismal commitment to STOP sinning. Believing the gospel which is obeying the gospel, is the only step to take in order to be saved. I do want to ask after reading Sues comments earlier on. At Pentecost the disciples were filled with the (Acts 2) Holy Spirit; however, the mystery Christ revealed to apostle Paul was not until after the final rejection of Messiah by Israel and occurred in Acts 9. I need a yes or no answer, and I shall ask no more questions.”. He’s concerned that they’re abandoning Jesus’ grace and turning to a different gospel—a false gospel.. Paul doesn’t mince words when it comes to Judaizers coming … The Gospel of Jesus Christ begins with the truth that all your sins were forever forgiven by God on the Cross of Jesus Christ (Mark 3:28; Colossians 1:20; 2 Corinthians 5:19). You need to be really honest with God and yourself, because one thing you are right about, the end is near. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. There have been times when I said Jesus is Lord and times I doubted. And because an encounter with Him is so glorious, so liberating, and so powerful in changing precious lives, the enemy has thrown up so many controversies and misconceptions around the gospel of grace. Although I believe Methodists are in error for not believing in eternal security, I am not willing to consign John and Charles Wesley and their followers to the flames of perdition. Nothing else makes sense of the seeming contradictions…but when you truly get hold of this truth and see how the puzzle of Scripture becomes a glorious picture from the mind/grace of God…it will truly transform your understanding of the Bible! I was asked what good I was doing ‘just’ reading the Bible’! Then get over yourself ,forgive yourself and move on God will never leave you through the consequences of sin He will never leave you ever no matter what. When my mother left the cult in the late 1970s I was gradually able to break away from that false gospel and wholeheartedly embrace the true Free Grace Gospel which Herbert Armstrong had constantly mocked and ridiculed. It pains me to see so many teens going the same route because they’re being taught the same things I was. ONE GRACIOUS GOD PROVIDING ONE GRACE,ONE JESUS WHO IS MANIFESTED GRACE AND THE HOLYSPIRIT THE ONLY MEANS BY WHICH WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND EXPERIENCE THIS GOSPEL OF GRACE AND TRUTH. Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal. Some doubt that small children know enough to get saved! 1 Peter 5:8: be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walkath about seeking whom he may devour: That is such a complex question Mary and to add to more complexity every soul is different with the same condition. God !!! Yes, all is based on God’s grace, as we have nothing apart from His grace in any age…but messages, people they are directed to, and resulting promises are, in my opinion by what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me, and obviously others, are clearly different and if understood in this light clear up a lot of the confusion caused by trying to make them one in the same. 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