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Effects Chain - Seventhson - 18:58 19-11-05

I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to connect
them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are the
following:
Korg AX1500G
Zoom 509
Zoom 1202 Studio
Boss CS-3
Boss NS-2

These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected either by
cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas would be
appreciated.
Thanks



Re: Effects Chain - theAlchemist - 22:22 19-11-05

"Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:

> I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
> connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are
> the following:
> Korg AX1500G
> Zoom 509
> Zoom 1202 Studio
> Boss CS-3
> Boss NS-2
>
> These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
> guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
> either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
> would be appreciated.
> Thanks
>
>

Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:

1. Compressor

2. Wah-Wah

3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion

4. Phaser

5. Equalizers

6. Pitch

7. Flanger ~ Chorus

8. Noise Gate

9. Volume

10. Delay

11. Reverb

In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form (sound)
at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip the wav form
(such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the pitch and wave
form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging and chorus. A
noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the effects and
finally, you want to control the volume (limiters, tremelo, panners,
etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should go right before the
amp.

The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function. The
NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.

I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
the web, so with that in mind...

The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with it.
As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and will
control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the end
of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our using
it in combination with the other effect processors. These units likely
do their own noise cleanup.

That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives you
the sound you're looking for then go for it.

Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.

--
Keep pickin' and have a great day!

-jeff

Re: Effects Chain - Greg Cisko - 02:56 20-11-05

In general, any OD or distortion pedals first, then any type of delay
flange or wah.

--

gcisko@hotmail.com


"Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to connect
> them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are the
> following:
> Korg AX1500G
> Zoom 509
> Zoom 1202 Studio
> Boss CS-3
> Boss NS-2
>
> These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
> guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected either
> by
> cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas would be
> appreciated.
> Thanks
>
>



Re: Effects Chain - acronychal - 04:45 20-11-05

sounds like it would get noisy. ever heard of this? The Redeemer
www.creationaudiolabs.com


Re: Effects Chain - Todd LaRoc - 14:02 20-11-05

Dude,

Your right.

But remember, in the final countdown, no pedal distortion comes close
to a REAL TUBE AMP. You can have the best pedals in town but if it they
connect to a solid state amp it'll sound like processed guitars coming
out of CRAIG CHAQUICO's ass.

So bang for buck I'd buy a tube amp first and pedals later - so should
you.

Case Closed

Todd LaRoc
http://profiles.yahoo.com/toddlaroc



theAlchemist wrote:
> "Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
> > I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
> > connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are
> > the following:
> > Korg AX1500G
> > Zoom 509
> > Zoom 1202 Studio
> > Boss CS-3
> > Boss NS-2
> >
> > These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
> > guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
> > either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
> > would be appreciated.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
> Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:
>
> 1. Compressor
>
> 2. Wah-Wah
>
> 3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion
>
> 4. Phaser
>
> 5. Equalizers
>
> 6. Pitch
>
> 7. Flanger ~ Chorus
>
> 8. Noise Gate
>
> 9. Volume
>
> 10. Delay
>
> 11. Reverb
>
> In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form (sound)
> at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip the wav form
> (such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the pitch and wave
> form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging and chorus. A
> noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the effects and
> finally, you want to control the volume (limiters, tremelo, panners,
> etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should go right before the
> amp.
>
> The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function. The
> NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.
>
> I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
> the web, so with that in mind...
>
> The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with it.
> As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and will
> control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
> modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the end
> of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our using
> it in combination with the other effect processors. These units likely
> do their own noise cleanup.
>
> That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
> Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
> like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives you
> the sound you're looking for then go for it.
>
> Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.
>
> --
> Keep pickin' and have a great day!
>
> -jeff


Re: Effects Chain - billy - 06:43 23-11-05

Should he use the NS2 straight through, or use the loop? I always wonder
about that with mine.

~billy



theAlchemist wrote:
> "Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>
>>I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
>>connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are
>>the following:
>>Korg AX1500G
>>Zoom 509
>>Zoom 1202 Studio
>>Boss CS-3
>>Boss NS-2
>>
>>These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
>>guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
>>either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
>>would be appreciated.
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>
>
> Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:
>
> 1. Compressor
>
> 2. Wah-Wah
>
> 3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion
>
> 4. Phaser
>
> 5. Equalizers
>
> 6. Pitch
>
> 7. Flanger ~ Chorus
>
> 8. Noise Gate
>
> 9. Volume
>
> 10. Delay
>
> 11. Reverb
>
> In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form (sound)
> at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip the wav form
> (such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the pitch and wave
> form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging and chorus. A
> noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the effects and
> finally, you want to control the volume (limiters, tremelo, panners,
> etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should go right before the
> amp.
>
> The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function. The
> NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.
>
> I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
> the web, so with that in mind...
>
> The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with it.
> As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and will
> control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
> modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the end
> of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our using
> it in combination with the other effect processors. These units likely
> do their own noise cleanup.
>
> That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
> Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
> like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives you
> the sound you're looking for then go for it.
>
> Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.
>

Re: Effects Chain - theAlchemist - 15:18 23-11-05

billy <billy_dev@REEMUVEcox.net> wrote in
news:_AYgf.17786$qw.13358@fed1read07:

the send/return is used to clean up noise that can be introduced by
effects.

Delay should not be "cleaned up" or you'll lose the quality and intent
of the delay.

lets see if I can draw it... (view it in plain courier font)


/---<--- IN
AMP <--- Delay <-- OUT <- Suppress Noise - /
\--/-----<--RETURN--|
/ |
|---------------- SEND <-------------------/ |
| |
| |
|--> effect 1 ... effect n -----------------------------------|


... rather crude but I hope it gets the point across (I ask your
forgiveness)

Of course, if there is no return then it will pipe your signal straight
through

-jeff


> Should he use the NS2 straight through, or use the loop? I always
> wonder about that with mine.
>
> ~billy
>
>
>
> theAlchemist wrote:
>> "Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
>>
>>
>>>I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
>>>connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals
>>>are the following:
>>>Korg AX1500G
>>>Zoom 509
>>>Zoom 1202 Studio
>>>Boss CS-3
>>>Boss NS-2
>>>
>>>These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
>>>guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
>>>either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
>>>would be appreciated.
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:
>>
>> 1. Compressor
>>
>> 2. Wah-Wah
>>
>> 3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion
>>
>> 4. Phaser
>>
>> 5. Equalizers
>>
>> 6. Pitch
>>
>> 7. Flanger ~ Chorus
>>
>> 8. Noise Gate
>>
>> 9. Volume
>>
>> 10. Delay
>>
>> 11. Reverb
>>
>> In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form
>> (sound) at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip
>> the wav form (such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the
>> pitch and wave form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging
>> and chorus. A noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the
>> effects and finally, you want to control the volume (limiters,
>> tremelo, panners, etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should
>> go right before the amp.
>>
>> The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function.
>> The NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
>> the web, so with that in mind...
>>
>> The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with
>> it. As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and
>> will control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
>> modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the
>> end of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our
>> using it in combination with the other effect processors. These
>> units likely do their own noise cleanup.
>>
>> That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
>> Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
>> like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives
>> you the sound you're looking for then go for it.
>>
>> Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.
>>
>



--
Keep pickin' and have a great day!

-jeff

Re: Effects Chain - RichCI - 15:32 23-11-05


Seventhson wrote:
> I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to connect
> them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals are the
> following:
> Korg AX1500G
> Zoom 509
> Zoom 1202 Studio
> Boss CS-3
> Boss NS-2
>
> These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
> guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected either by
> cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas would be
> appreciated.
> Thanks


Here is my stock answer:


The question about effects order pops up now and then in this group and
my advice is always the same: experiment. There really is no "correct"
way to sequence effects and the order you put them in is dependent on
the results you'd like to achieve.

I've never messed with modelers, so I won't go into the acoustic
modeler you have, but give you some advice on the others. Let's look
at the EQ and the two overdrive/distortion pedals.

The EQ is the variable that stands out and whether you place it before
or after the overdrive pedals depends on whether you want to shape the
sound of your guitar or your overall tone. Placing the EQ before
overdrive will give you more flexibility over how the overdrive reacts.
For example, maybe you want a thicker, fuzzier sound; you would raise
the lower frequencies to mush up the overdrive pedals a bit.
Conversely, perhaps you'd like more control over the overall tone of
your amplifier; running the EQ between the overdrive pedals and the amp
would give you more flexibility than using just the controls of your
amp. This is also dependent on whether you're overdriving your amp's
input as EQ changes you make under that scenario will also effect how
the amp responds.

As for the order between the overdrive and the distortion, it depends
on how you want to use them. If you plan to use only one at a time,
any order will do. If you want to use one to drive the other, I'd
start with the overdrive before the distortion using a light overdrive
setting to cascade the effects; ramping up the amount of crunch in
stages. Try the reverse as well.

I prefer wah before overdrive. I find the effect to be too extreme
when after overdrive. Plus, if you're a traditionalist, wah before
overdrive is the way to go; they didn't have much except fuzz pedals
and amp overdrive (and no effects loops) back when wahs first came out
so my hunch is that wahs are voiced to go prior to overdrive anyway.

Another scenario that people often ask about is where to place time
based effects like flangers and phasers in relation to a delay. Same
thing - experiment as there is no right way to do it. Here are some
examples:

One thought is that you would always want the delay last as it is an
ambient effect that simulates a space (room) so space would be the
final component in situation. So, this would dictate that delay should
be the last effect, after flanging or phasing.

I like some time based effects like chorusing and phasing before
overdrive as they don't sound quite as nice and pristine, but that's
just my preference and plenty of other players like those effects after
overdrive.

Flanging I like dead last after everything. One thought is that
flanging was originally an effect produced using tape machines where,
presumably, a delay effect was already printed to tape. So, when
creating flanging, the delay would already exist and the flanging would
effect the echos. Plus, having a sweep over the echos sounds pretty
cool:

With a flanger or phaser before the delay, you get a sound like this:
"NYOW-NYOW-nyow-nyow-nyow."

With a flanger or phaser after a delay, you get a sound like this:
"NYA-AH-AW-aw-ow-ow."

Hope that made sense.

Anyway, play around with the order your effects and see what works best
your you. Sometimes, you'll get some very pleasing results that you
never anticipated.


Re: Effects Chain - billy - 07:21 24-11-05

Yeah but putting the other pedals (minus time based effects obviously)
before the NS2 also removes noise introduced by the other effects. I was
just wondering it was wasn't recommended to him to use the loop because
I use the loop and always wonder if I can get more noise out. I have
been too lazy to hunt down docs on the NS2 and see how exactly the noise
reduction circuit works and if it compares signals (i.e. input vs.
loop return) and does some tricks to figure out what may be "noise" or
if it simply cuts sound below a threshold in which case, what good would
the loop be.

~billy


theAlchemist wrote:
> billy <billy_dev@REEMUVEcox.net> wrote in
> news:_AYgf.17786$qw.13358@fed1read07:
>
> the send/return is used to clean up noise that can be introduced by
> effects.
>
> Delay should not be "cleaned up" or you'll lose the quality and intent
> of the delay.
>
> lets see if I can draw it... (view it in plain courier font)
>
>
> /---<--- IN
> AMP <--- Delay <-- OUT <- Suppress Noise - /
> \--/-----<--RETURN--|
> / |
> |---------------- SEND <-------------------/ |
> | |
> | |
> |--> effect 1 ... effect n -----------------------------------|
>
>
> ... rather crude but I hope it gets the point across (I ask your
> forgiveness)
>
> Of course, if there is no return then it will pipe your signal straight
> through
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>>Should he use the NS2 straight through, or use the loop? I always
>>wonder about that with mine.
>>
>>~billy
>>
>>
>>
>>theAlchemist wrote:
>>
>>>"Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>>>news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
>>>>connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals
>>>>are the following:
>>>>Korg AX1500G
>>>>Zoom 509
>>>>Zoom 1202 Studio
>>>>Boss CS-3
>>>>Boss NS-2
>>>>
>>>>These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
>>>>guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
>>>>either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
>>>>would be appreciated.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:
>>>
>>>1. Compressor
>>>
>>>2. Wah-Wah
>>>
>>>3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion
>>>
>>>4. Phaser
>>>
>>>5. Equalizers
>>>
>>>6. Pitch
>>>
>>>7. Flanger ~ Chorus
>>>
>>>8. Noise Gate
>>>
>>>9. Volume
>>>
>>>10. Delay
>>>
>>>11. Reverb
>>>
>>>In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form
>>>(sound) at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip
>>>the wav form (such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the
>>>pitch and wave form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging
>>>and chorus. A noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the
>>>effects and finally, you want to control the volume (limiters,
>>>tremelo, panners, etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should
>>>go right before the amp.
>>>
>>>The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function.
>>>The NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.
>>>
>>>I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
>>>the web, so with that in mind...
>>>
>>>The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with
>>>it. As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and
>>>will control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
>>>modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the
>>>end of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our
>>>using it in combination with the other effect processors. These
>>>units likely do their own noise cleanup.
>>>
>>>That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
>>> Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
>>>like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives
>>>you the sound you're looking for then go for it.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.
>>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Effects Chain - Rob Duncan - 22:59 24-11-05


"billy" <billy_dev@REEMUVEcox.net> wrote in message
news:Deihf.32568$qw.6329@fed1read07...
> Yeah but putting the other pedals (minus time based effects obviously)
> before the NS2 also removes noise introduced by the other effects. I was
> just wondering it was wasn't recommended to him to use the loop because I
> use the loop and always wonder if I can get more noise out. I have been
> too lazy to hunt down docs on the NS2 and see how exactly the noise
> reduction circuit works and if it compares signals (i.e. input vs. loop
> return) and does some tricks to figure out what may be "noise" or if it
> simply cuts sound below a threshold in which case, what good would the
> loop be.
>
> ~billy


Im interested in his answer to that as well.


Rob

>
>
> theAlchemist wrote:
>> billy <billy_dev@REEMUVEcox.net> wrote in
>> news:_AYgf.17786$qw.13358@fed1read07: the send/return is used to clean up
>> noise that can be introduced by effects.
>>
>> Delay should not be "cleaned up" or you'll lose the quality and intent of
>> the delay.
>>
>> lets see if I can draw it... (view it in plain courier font)
>>
>>
>> /---<--- IN
>> AMP <--- Delay <-- OUT <- Suppress Noise - /
>> \--/-----<--RETURN--|
>> / |
>> |---------------- SEND <-------------------/ |
>> | |
>> | |
>> |--> effect 1 ... effect n -----------------------------------|
>>
>>
>> ... rather crude but I hope it gets the point across (I ask your
>> forgiveness)
>>
>> Of course, if there is no return then it will pipe your signal straight
>> through
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>>Should he use the NS2 straight through, or use the loop? I always
>>>wonder about that with mine.
>>>
>>>~billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>theAlchemist wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Seventhson" <powerslave@pieceofmind.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>news:dloe8a$ll$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a few different pedals and am not sure in which order to
>>>>>connect them, so thought I'd ask here for some suggestions. Pedals
>>>>>are the following:
>>>>>Korg AX1500G
>>>>>Zoom 509
>>>>>Zoom 1202 Studio
>>>>>Boss CS-3
>>>>>Boss NS-2
>>>>>
>>>>>These would all run into a Marshall VS100 half stack and from several
>>>>>guitars (Strats,Les Paul,Ovation electro-acoustic), all connected
>>>>>either by cable or via an audio-technica wireless system. Any ideas
>>>>>would be appreciated.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Here's a recommendation for pedal order from guitar to amp:
>>>>
>>>>1. Compressor
>>>>
>>>>2. Wah-Wah
>>>>
>>>>3. Overdrive or high-gain distortion
>>>>
>>>>4. Phaser
>>>>
>>>>5. Equalizers
>>>>
>>>>6. Pitch
>>>>
>>>>7. Flanger ~ Chorus
>>>>
>>>>8. Noise Gate
>>>>
>>>>9. Volume
>>>>
>>>>10. Delay
>>>>
>>>>11. Reverb
>>>>
>>>>In general, put effects that rely on the shape of the wave form
>>>>(sound) at the beginning of the chain. Then into effects that clip
>>>>the wav form (such as distortion). Next are effects that modulate the
>>>>pitch and wave form such as graphic equalizers, harmonizers, flanging
>>>>and chorus. A noise gate can help clean up residual noise from the
>>>>effects and finally, you want to control the volume (limiters,
>>>>tremelo, panners, etc), delay and finally reverb. The reverb should
>>>>go right before the amp.
>>>>
>>>>The boss pedals are straight forward as they are single function. The
>>>>NS-2 is your noise supressor and the CS-3 is your compressor.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not very familiar with the other pedals. I did a quick lookup on
>>>>the web, so with that in mind...
>>>>
>>>>The placement of the KorgAX1500G depends on what you're doing with
>>>>it. As a full multi-effects box it does all of these functions and
>>>>will control the order internally. The Zoom 1202 looks to be mostly
>>>>modulation effects (chorus/flanging/Reverb) so it would go near the
>>>>end of the chain. Again it depends on how your using it and how our
>>>>using it in combination with the other effect processors. These
>>>>units likely do their own noise cleanup.
>>>>
>>>>That said you can get very different sounds by swapping effect order.
>>>> Some people prefer the phaser at the biginning of the chain. Others
>>>>like to wah after distoriton and ovedrive. If swapping pedals gives
>>>>you the sound you're looking for then go for it.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps. It clearly not enuogh said about a hugh topic.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>


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