Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - Jon Pickens - 12:30 26-11-05
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Hi,
One of my guitars has this added to the volume control. While I do
like the fact that it retains its clarity when rolling the volume off,
it can at times be brighter than I'd prefer.
Does anyone know of a better solution, to keep the tone unchanged while
at the same time reducing the volume?
I'd even be willing to add an active preamp if it would do what I need.
Thanks,
~jp
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - Keith Adams - 17:18 26-11-05
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Pretty simple. Use a different cap that blocks treble.For instance if
it is using a .0047mfd cap then try a .047mfd cap instead.
Thats just an example
"Jon Pickens" <jonrpick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133022548.292270.74850@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
One of my guitars has this added to the volume control. While I do
like the fact that it retains its clarity when rolling the volume off,
it can at times be brighter than I'd prefer.
Does anyone know of a better solution, to keep the tone unchanged while
at the same time reducing the volume?
I'd even be willing to add an active preamp if it would do what I need.
Thanks,
~jp
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - west - 18:11 26-11-05
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> "Jon Pickens" <jonrpick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1133022548.292270.74850@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> One of my guitars has this added to the volume control. While I do
> like the fact that it retains its clarity when rolling the volume off,
> it can at times be brighter than I'd prefer.
>
> Does anyone know of a better solution, to keep the tone unchanged while
> at the same time reducing the volume?
>
> I'd even be willing to add an active preamp if it would do what I need.
>
> Thanks,
> ~jp
>
Keith Adams wrote:
> Pretty simple. Use a different cap that blocks treble.For instance if
> it is using a .0047mfd cap then try a .047mfd cap instead.
> Thats just an example
>
I second Keith. I worked with different values on my LP until the
sound was nearly transparent when I rolled off the volume. I now
normally play with the volume around 5-6. That way I can swap between
the LP and my stratwithout fiddling with the amp. Hint:if you can find a
capacitance decade box, you can take your time dialing in the exact
value cap you want the first time.
west
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - §cİİt§ - 20:38 26-11-05
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"west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4388eb99$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> I worked with different values on my LP until the
> sound was nearly transparent when I rolled off the volume. I now
> normally play with the volume around 5-6. That way I can swap between
> the LP and my stratwithout fiddling with the amp. Hint:if you can find a
> capacitance decade box, you can take your time dialing in the exact
> value cap you want the first time.
which value eventually worked for you? I want to try that on my LP
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - west - 22:21 26-11-05
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§cİİt§ wrote:
> "west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4388eb99$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>I worked with different values on my LP until the
>>sound was nearly transparent when I rolled off the volume. I now
>>normally play with the volume around 5-6. That way I can swap between
>>the LP and my Strat without fiddling with the amp. Hint:if you can find a
>>capacitance decade box, you can take your time dialing in the exact
>>value cap you want the first time.
>
>
> which value eventually worked for you? I want to try that on my LP
>
>
Bear in mind this is an Epi _Elitist_ LP with original pups. I like
the rig just the way it is.
I'm now using .057uf +/-5% 300v caps across both volume pots. When I
roll back the volume pots with this value, the frequencies stay well
balanced.Not too bright, not dull.
west
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - §cİİt§ - 10:25 27-11-05
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"west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4389262e$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> §cİİt§ wrote:
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>> "west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4388eb99$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>I worked with different values on my LP until the
>>>sound was nearly transparent when I rolled off the volume. I now
>>>normally play with the volume around 5-6. That way I can swap between
>>>the LP and my Strat without fiddling with the amp. Hint:if you can find a
>>>capacitance decade box, you can take your time dialing in the exact
>>>value cap you want the first time.
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>> which value eventually worked for you? I want to try that on my LP
>>
>>
> Bear in mind this is an Epi _Elitist_ LP with original pups. I like
> the rig just the way it is.
hey, whatever works and gets the sound that grooves you.
> I'm now using .057uf +/-5% 300v caps across both volume pots. When I
> roll back the volume pots with this value, the frequencies stay well
> balanced.Not too bright, not dull.
cool man thanks for letting me know. Is that what I'd ask for at Radioshat-
'.057uf +/-5% 300v cap' ?
:)
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - west - 12:43 27-11-05
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§cİİt§ wrote:
> "west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4389262e$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>§cİİt§ wrote:
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>>>"west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:4388eb99$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>>I worked with different values on my LP until the
>>>>sound was nearly transparent when I rolled off the volume. I now
>>>>normally play with the volume around 5-6. That way I can swap between
>>>>the LP and my Strat without fiddling with the amp. Hint:if you can find a
>>>>capacitance decade box, you can take your time dialing in the exact
>>>>value cap you want the first time.
>>>
>>>
>>>which value eventually worked for you? I want to try that on my LP
>>>
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>> Bear in mind this is an Epi _Elitist_ LP with original pups. I like
>>the rig just the way it is.
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>
> hey, whatever works and gets the sound that grooves you.
>
>
>>I'm now using .057uf +/-5% 300v caps across both volume pots. When I
>>roll back the volume pots with this value, the frequencies stay well
>>balanced.Not too bright, not dull.
>
>
> cool man thanks for letting me know. Is that what I'd ask for at Radioshat-
> '.057uf +/-5% 300v cap' ?
> :)
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>
It doesn't need to be +/- 5% or 300 volts. I got mine from a surplus
electronics store, and it was the closest values to my ideal situation.
Just ask for a ".057 micro farad capacitor". I don't think I paid $2
for both of them.
The reason I added the Epi caveat is I don't know how different the
Gibbie pups are from mine. I don't know if they have the same magnets,
gage wire and number of windings. I do know they sound different than
mine(not as bright, more mids).I've been told by someone more
experienced than me that it makes a difference. That said, it is only
two solder joints per pot, capacitors are cheap, and half the fun is
saying "I did it". I soldered mine right in the guitar's cavity. If you
do that be careful you don't burn the guitar's finish. That is where the
decade box comes in handy. You actually solder only once, when you are
sure of what values you want.
Like I said before, I usually play around 5-6, and keep the rest in
reserve. when I want to stick out, I roll up. I love the first time I
roll up the volume and the other guy takes notice. It works _great_ on
high gain tube amps like Marshalls.
The mod lets you do interesting things with compressors too.
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Re: Treble bleed on guitar's volume control... - Jim Anable - 18:16 29-11-05
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Jon Pickens wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of my guitars has this added to the volume control. While I do
> like the fact that it retains its clarity when rolling the volume off,
> it can at times be brighter than I'd prefer.
>
> Does anyone know of a better solution, to keep the tone unchanged while
> at the same time reducing the volume?
>
> I'd even be willing to add an active preamp if it would do what I need.
>
> Thanks,
> ~jp
You could put a resistor in the circuit, or change cap value. I think I
use a .001 on my LP with Seymour Duncans.
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