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Guitar Discussions -> clipping
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clipping - tai fu - 06:53 27-11-05
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So what is clipping? I thought turning on distortion causes the amp to clip
therefore giving you the distortion sound?
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Re: clipping - DeeAa - 07:08 27-11-05
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"tai fu" <sdfgsdfg@aol.com> wrote in message
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> So what is clipping? I thought turning on distortion causes the amp to
> clip
> therefore giving you the distortion sound?
>
If you imagine that clean sound wave is as the name implies, wafeform, like
round, soft waves of the sea.
Only that these waves are in a tube, or a container anyway, which has a
ceiling.
Now when you add more water (volume) the waves reach the top and start
hitting the ceiling, which is clipping - it's making the normally round tops
of the waves square against the ceiling.
Clipping in pure form is not-so nice fuzz, but done in right places and only
proportionally (i.e. to only certain parts of the harmonics, parallel waves
within the big swells if you will), it might sound good, and this is what
distortion/overdrive FX try to achieve.
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Re: clipping - Guncho - 11:51 28-11-05
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DeeAa wrote:
> "tai fu" <sdfgsdfg@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dmc6nu$kt8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> > So what is clipping? I thought turning on distortion causes the amp to
> > clip
> > therefore giving you the distortion sound?
> >
> If you imagine that clean sound wave is as the name implies, wafeform, like
> round, soft waves of the sea.
>
> Only that these waves are in a tube, or a container anyway, which has a
> ceiling.
>
> Now when you add more water (volume) the waves reach the top and start
> hitting the ceiling, which is clipping - it's making the normally round tops
> of the waves square against the ceiling.
>
> Clipping in pure form is not-so nice fuzz, but done in right places and only
> proportionally (i.e. to only certain parts of the harmonics, parallel waves
> within the big swells if you will), it might sound good, and this is what
> distortion/overdrive FX try to achieve.
Or that great sound when you crank a tube amp.
Chris
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Re: clipping - Keith Adams - 13:03 28-11-05
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When you give a tube amp the juice to the point where the power tubes
are running at full tilt boogie its called saturation and this is the
point where the clipping occurs. The tubes are being driven too hard.
Hence overdriveThere is preamp distortion and powertube distortion. IMO
preamp distortion sounds grainy and unpleasent in comparrison to power
tube distortion which is smooth and just all around better sounding.
Most amp manufacturers ala Marshall do things ass backwards when
building hybrid amps. They use a tube preamp and SS power section. I
guess because its easy to overdrive preamp tubes.On the other hand
Music Man made amps with SS preamp and tube(EL34 sweet)power amps.
Very nice sounding amps.
"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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DeeAa wrote:
> "tai fu" <sdfgsdfg@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dmc6nu$kt8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> > So what is clipping? I thought turning on distortion causes the amp
to
> > clip
> > therefore giving you the distortion sound?
> >
> If you imagine that clean sound wave is as the name implies,
wafeform, like
> round, soft waves of the sea.
>
> Only that these waves are in a tube, or a container anyway, which has
a
> ceiling.
>
> Now when you add more water (volume) the waves reach the top and
start
> hitting the ceiling, which is clipping - it's making the normally
round tops
> of the waves square against the ceiling.
>
> Clipping in pure form is not-so nice fuzz, but done in right places
and only
> proportionally (i.e. to only certain parts of the harmonics, parallel
waves
> within the big swells if you will), it might sound good, and this is
what
> distortion/overdrive FX try to achieve.
Or that great sound when you crank a tube amp.
Chris
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Re: clipping - Jim Anable - 18:03 29-11-05
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Keith Adams wrote:
> When you give a tube amp the juice to the point where the power tubes
> are running at full tilt boogie its called saturation and this is the
> point where the clipping occurs. The tubes are being driven too hard.
> Hence overdriveThere is preamp distortion and powertube distortion. IMO
> preamp distortion sounds grainy and unpleasent in comparrison to power
> tube distortion which is smooth
That depends on the amp, and the actual preamp tube used. Result run
from HORRIBLE to pretty damned good.
and just all around better sounding.
> Most amp manufacturers ala Marshall do things ass backwards when
> building hybrid amps. They use a tube preamp and SS power section.
Actually, they use a SS power amp AND preamp. They just toss a tube in
the middle of the solid state preamp.
I
> guess because its easy to overdrive preamp tubes.On the other hand
> Music Man made amps with SS preamp and tube(EL34 sweet)power amps.
> Very nice sounding amps.
>
> "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1133196702.324894.63260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> DeeAa wrote:
>
>>"tai fu" <sdfgsdfg@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:dmc6nu$kt8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
>>
>>>So what is clipping? I thought turning on distortion causes the amp
>
> to
>
>>>clip
>>>therefore giving you the distortion sound?
>>>
>>
>>If you imagine that clean sound wave is as the name implies,
>
> wafeform, like
>
>>round, soft waves of the sea.
>>
>>Only that these waves are in a tube, or a container anyway, which has
>
> a
>
>>ceiling.
>>
>>Now when you add more water (volume) the waves reach the top and
>
> start
>
>>hitting the ceiling, which is clipping - it's making the normally
>
> round tops
>
>>of the waves square against the ceiling.
>>
>>Clipping in pure form is not-so nice fuzz, but done in right places
>
> and only
>
>>proportionally (i.e. to only certain parts of the harmonics, parallel
>
> waves
>
>>within the big swells if you will), it might sound good, and this is
>
> what
>
>>distortion/overdrive FX try to achieve.
>
>
> Or that great sound when you crank a tube amp.
>
> Chris
>
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