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Guitar Discussions -> Yet more Cream Machine
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Yet more Cream Machine - DeeAa - 04:15 28-11-05
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This is an amazing amp.
Just tried it at full blast, at 1/4 gain - nuthin' but my strat into the CM
and out to a single 10" speaker with a homemade cabinet.
No FX or anything whatsoever.
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/deeaa/newstack2.mp3
Recorded with a studio mic at maybe 3 feet distance. My Nokian decibel meter
peaked at 105dB, constantly at over a 100 decibels!!!!
Pretty nice for a 1W tube amp, huh!
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - Mo - 07:19 28-11-05
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> Pretty nice for a 1W tube amp, huh!
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Okay, next one I see, I buy.
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - DeeAa - 09:25 28-11-05
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - Mo - 09:41 28-11-05
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - DeeAa - 10:42 28-11-05
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - Keith Adams - 13:14 28-11-05
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Good playing DeeAa but I truly didnt care for the amps sound. Preamp
tubes in the power section leave a hell of alot to be desired. What
kind of amps have you owned through the many years DeeAa? None of my
buisness but just curious.
"DeeAa" <deeaa@poist.mun.tast.kaik.dnainternet.net> wrote in message
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This is an amazing amp.
Just tried it at full blast, at 1/4 gain - nuthin' but my strat into
the CM
and out to a single 10" speaker with a homemade cabinet.
No FX or anything whatsoever.
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/deeaa/newstack2.mp3
Recorded with a studio mic at maybe 3 feet distance. My Nokian decibel
meter
peaked at 105dB, constantly at over a 100 decibels!!!!
Pretty nice for a 1W tube amp, huh!
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - Dr. Zontar - 14:44 28-11-05
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DeeAa wrote:
> And believe me, I can't get the sound I hear onto tape, it's
> REALLY good live, the recored sound somehow sounds too driven. I had to back
> off the mike to 3 feet before it was even something like what you hear live.
In real life, does it have more low end? Your sound clip was very nice,
but didn't have much bass.
> I gotta try with a 57 or some other more traditional cabinet mike soon, this
> mike is too hi-fi.
You can't go wrong with an SM57.
- Rich
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - DeeAa - 16:23 28-11-05
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"Dr. Zontar" <drzontar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> DeeAa wrote:
>> And believe me, I can't get the sound I hear onto tape, it's
>> REALLY good live, the recored sound somehow sounds too driven. I had to
>> back
>> off the mike to 3 feet before it was even something like what you hear
>> live.
>
> In real life, does it have more low end? Your sound clip was very nice,
> but didn't have much bass.
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>> I gotta try with a 57 or some other more traditional cabinet mike soon,
>> this
>> mike is too hi-fi.
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> You can't go wrong with an SM57.
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No, it definately doesn't have much low end. There just isn't enough
headroom in the amp, being so tiny. There's just enough for my taste, but
definately it won't do for modern low-tuned stuff or otherwise very warm
sounds. It's just that sorta AC/DC style bite; needs a bass behind it to
make it punchy. But well, Angus doesn't have that much low end on most
records either.
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - DeeAa - 16:36 28-11-05
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"Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Good playing DeeAa but I truly didnt care for the amps sound. Preamp
> tubes in the power section leave a hell of alot to be desired. What
> kind of amps have you owned through the many years DeeAa? None of my
> buisness but just curious.
>
I know, it lacks the low end pretty much totally, and doesn't have that
'round' sound...but that's OK for now as I was really wanting to get a very
bright AC/DC screem. But as I said, it does sound much much more 'tube'
live. And the clip had no EQ or anything whatsoever; I was just toying
around just now with some EQ and it will sound a helluva lot better after
some tweaking. The clip was truly just the guitar directly onto the
poweramp, and there's nothing but the volume and gain control there - I just
stuck my vocal mic a few feet from the speaker at a distance it didn't
overload the input on the PC and recorded that. Needs more bag end, but
still, I just love the way it screams those high notes so effortlessly.
As for my amps...can't remember them all, but there were maybe 3-4 SS amps
first starting from your basic 10W practice rigs and onto a 75 Marshall
reverb, and then a MOSFET head with a 4x10", the cab I still have.
Then I had a real nice all-tube Ampeg 2x12 and a TubeWorks overdrive to go
with it; later played some BOSS gear direct to board for a while, and also
used the Ampeg for power amp. Really beautiful clean sounds it had.
Then I had a coupla of Fenders, a Twin, blackface, silver, played a Vibrolux
for a while but never actually bought it, and then played a BluesDeVille for
some years, with no other effects - I just drove the amp hard with my guitar
onboard preamp.
(I had a nice Gibson Les Paul Standard then)
Meanwhile my friends I played with had several amps I also sometimes played
and borrowed; the ones I liked the most were for instance an old Plexi and
then later a Tech 21 rig I really liked. Always liked playing the
Bluesbreaker too.
Then I went direct again, playing a JMP-1 into board, and used an old Vox
all-tube head sometimes too. Our bassist used it as a bass head usually.
Then I built a rig around the JMP-1 and that's what I used for several years
gigging, it had a 120W SS poweramp I ran the JMP-1 into. It was nice for
live work.
And now it's just this JMP-1 and the CreamMachine.
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Re: Yet more Cream Machine - Jim Anable - 17:54 29-11-05
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DeeAa wrote:
> "Dr. Zontar" <drzontar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1133207094.048927.72800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>>DeeAa wrote:
>>
>>>And believe me, I can't get the sound I hear onto tape, it's
>>>REALLY good live, the recored sound somehow sounds too driven. I had to
>>>back
>>>off the mike to 3 feet before it was even something like what you hear
>>>live.
>>
>>In real life, does it have more low end? Your sound clip was very nice,
>>but didn't have much bass.
>>
>>
>>>I gotta try with a 57 or some other more traditional cabinet mike soon,
>>>this
>>>mike is too hi-fi.
>>
>>You can't go wrong with an SM57.
>>
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> No, it definately doesn't have much low end. There just isn't enough
> headroom in the amp, being so tiny.
It's physics. It uses a TINY output transformer, with only one watt.
It takes brute power to thrash a guitar speaker enough to get real
bottom end. One watt isn't really enough, and it'll never happen
through that tiny transformer.
BUT... It's still great at what it does do.
AND... It gives you instrument and line level outputs AFTER the output
transformer, with or without basic RedBox 4x12 emulation. My favorite
use is Cream Machine > Guitar Silencer (best noise reduction/gate out
there) > quality EQ > amp. That way, you can cut the noise between
playing, and EQ in more bottom!
> There's just enough for my taste, but
> definately it won't do for modern low-tuned stuff or otherwise very warm
> sounds. It's just that sorta AC/DC style bite; needs a bass behind it to
> make it punchy. But well, Angus doesn't have that much low end on most
> records either.
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