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Guitar Discussions -> need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel
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need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - K Franklin - 16:26 01-12-05
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I'm hoping to get some recommendations/warnings here. I have cubital
tunnel syndrome in my right elbow (already had surgery on the left,
trying to avoid that). I haven't shopped for an acoustic guitar in over
10 years. I love my 1992 Takamine EN-20C (jumbo, cedar top, upgraded
preamp), my 1982 Yairi DY-46 (spruce top, all solid woods?), and my
1989 Seagull cedar-top 12-string. I've been lucky to find
less-expensive guitars that hold their own with many Taylors and
Martins I've played, and even made their owners jealous (plugged and
unplugged). Playing any of them right now causes pain/numbness.
So far the most comfortable guitars I've played have a shallow body
(under 3.75 inches), and a smaller lower bout (14 inches or less).
Solid top is required, cutaway, as much solid wood elsewhere as
possible, good electronics, under $500 if possible, under $1000 if not.
I don't see much sense in spending 500-1000 for a laminate top/back if
I can get solid woods for the same money.
I'm amazed at how few makers list the lower bout or body depth specs on
their web sites.
I perform solo and with others, strum, fingerstyle, open tunings; I
like low action, rich bass. I was considering a Line 6 Variax
Acoustic, but I can't see that as my primary guitar, and I also need a
laptop, don't have budget for both.
In the under $500 range, I'm considering the returnable Peal SC-Solid
Top, nicer Luna Guitars (http://www.lunaguitars.com), not sure about
the woods on those. I looked at the Takamine web site but there are so
many models my eyes are crossing.
I'm here to learn. Thanks in advance for your help!
Kelly F.
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Re: need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - K Franklin - 10:18 02-12-05
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Please forgive the multiple posts. I'm not very familiar with the
newsreader I'm using and thought it was giving me an error when I tried
to send.
I look forward to your recommendations for the guitar.
Thanks!
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Re: need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - Rob Duncan - 19:37 02-12-05
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"K Franklin" <lot13@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:021220050918254603%lot13@sbcglobal.net...
> Please forgive the multiple posts. I'm not very familiar with the
> newsreader I'm using and thought it was giving me an error when I tried
> to send.
>
> I look forward to your recommendations for the guitar.
>
> Thanks!
I have MS and it kills my right shoulder when I play my acoustics. What Im
thinking of getting is a Fender telecoustic or stratocoustic. Or maybe an
Ibanez Talisman. Would one of those suit your purpose?
Anyone have one of those? Could you give us an idea of its sound unplugged?
I need something real shallow as well. Ive also thought about an Ovation.
If I remember right, I think I recall one with only a 3 1/2 inch bowl. Do I
have that right?
Rob
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Re: need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - Rookie - 21:51 02-12-05
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"Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> wrote in
news:jN5kf.65$IJ2.114801@news.sisna.com:
> "K Franklin" <lot13@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:021220050918254603%lot13@sbcglobal.net...
>> Please forgive the multiple posts. I'm not very familiar with the
>> newsreader I'm using and thought it was giving me an error when I
>> tried to send.
>>
>> I look forward to your recommendations for the guitar.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I have MS and it kills my right shoulder when I play my acoustics.
> What Im thinking of getting is a Fender telecoustic or stratocoustic.
> Or maybe an Ibanez Talisman. Would one of those suit your purpose?
>
> Anyone have one of those? Could you give us an idea of its sound
> unplugged? I need something real shallow as well. Ive also thought
> about an Ovation. If I remember right, I think I recall one with only
> a 3 1/2 inch bowl. Do I have that right?
>
>
> Rob
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>
Suffering from a variety of similar problems, I always pay attention to
ergonomics, shape and of course weight. When I had the opportunity to try
various guitars a few years ago, I remember the stratacoustic and the
telecoustic felt very comfortable, and also an ovation clone made by
Stagg, very shallow and very nice and curved. The last one was my
favourite, as it felt much more natural than any other acoustic.
The acoustic unuplugged sound was quite pleasant, but certainly not as
loud or toneful as some large boxes. However, it was pretty ok for
playing in a room, rather glassy and not very vivid, but not muddy or
tinny either. But the guitars did come alive through an acoustic amp.
Lately I thought again about buying an acoustic, and thought about an
ovation clone by Harley Benton, of even the Cort thinline models.
However, I thought that the acoustic still requires greater hand
strength, and the angle of the front and the sides will still be sharp,
forcing the elbow on an uncomfortable position. So I decided to spend
money on a superlight electric like the Yamaha RGX A2 and also buy a
Behringer acoustic emulation pedal. My shopping list is still not
finalized yet though :)
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Re: need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - K Franklin - 00:45 03-12-05
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If I can, I would rather spend Strat/Teleacoustic or Talman money on a
more acoustic-type guitar. I have an electric hollowbody that I can use
with a piezo effect box, but it's heavy and not as mobile as an
acoustic. As I progress in this search though, I find myself revisiting
guitars I previously dismissed. To me buying a laminate top guitar is
like renting it or burning money, since they decline with age.
Ovation-style guitars slide away from me.
I did try a Stagg laminate guitar, model 206C. It was only 3.5" thick,
15" lower bout (had the salesman measure it, no specs on
staggmusic.com), and it was under $150. I was surprised the lower bout
was that large, as it was fairly comfortable. I tried several, and they
varied widely in action/intonation/feel. Plugged in they sounded pretty
good. The single truss rod looked like it was just shoved in the neck.
Stagg makes a solid-top version, but in the catalog the body style
looks different (in fact, just like a Peal SC-Solid Top, which is
smaller, prettier, about the same price, double-truss rod, and no-cost
returnable). The local store doesn't carry the solid-top Stagg, I'd
have to order it.
Synchronistically, I just discovered Musicians Friend has their
acoustics-electrics searchable by solid-top, body style, etc. which
helps with research. Maybe some others who carry other brands will
follow suit.
I'm going to a couple of stores tomorrow with a tape measure to check
out some Ibanez, Takamine and others. More suggestions appreciated.
KF
In article <Xns97212EA5ABAEB3jfk6@localhost>, Rookie
<rookie@hates.spam> wrote:
> "Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> wrote in
> news:jN5kf.65$IJ2.114801@news.sisna.com:
>
> > "K Franklin" <lot13@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:021220050918254603%lot13@sbcglobal.net...
> >> Please forgive the multiple posts. I'm not very familiar with the
> >> newsreader I'm using and thought it was giving me an error when I
> >> tried to send.
> >>
> >> I look forward to your recommendations for the guitar.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > I have MS and it kills my right shoulder when I play my acoustics.
> > What Im thinking of getting is a Fender telecoustic or stratocoustic.
> > Or maybe an Ibanez Talisman. Would one of those suit your purpose?
> >
> > Anyone have one of those? Could you give us an idea of its sound
> > unplugged? I need something real shallow as well. Ive also thought
> > about an Ovation. If I remember right, I think I recall one with only
> > a 3 1/2 inch bowl. Do I have that right?
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
>
> Suffering from a variety of similar problems, I always pay attention to
> ergonomics, shape and of course weight. When I had the opportunity to try
> various guitars a few years ago, I remember the stratacoustic and the
> telecoustic felt very comfortable, and also an ovation clone made by
> Stagg, very shallow and very nice and curved. The last one was my
> favourite, as it felt much more natural than any other acoustic.
>
> The acoustic unuplugged sound was quite pleasant, but certainly not as
> loud or toneful as some large boxes. However, it was pretty ok for
> playing in a room, rather glassy and not very vivid, but not muddy or
> tinny either. But the guitars did come alive through an acoustic amp.
>
>
> Lately I thought again about buying an acoustic, and thought about an
> ovation clone by Harley Benton, of even the Cort thinline models.
> However, I thought that the acoustic still requires greater hand
> strength, and the angle of the front and the sides will still be sharp,
> forcing the elbow on an uncomfortable position. So I decided to spend
> money on a superlight electric like the Yamaha RGX A2 and also buy a
> Behringer acoustic emulation pedal. My shopping list is still not
> finalized yet though :)
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Re: need small acoustic-electric, cubital tunnel - Mike Brown - 03:23 03-12-05
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My favourite guitar is a 12 fret cutaway parlour, which is SO
comfortable to play.
Since it also sounds wonderful, it's not really a surprise that I like
it so much.
Small bodied guitars don't always have small voices, mine certainly
doesn't.
Of course a parlour isn't necessarily thin, which may be one of your
needs.
Good luck with the hunt.
MJRB
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