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Guitar Discussions -> Pickups for baritone?
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Pickups for baritone? - Tony Done - 23:09 01-12-05
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I have an OLP electric baritone, which seems to be good acoustically, but
the hot (about 16K ohm) pickups are muddy and boomy in the bass. I've tried
various tricks, such as coil taps and different magnets, but without
sufficient improvement.
Can anyone suggest pickups which might respond well to the low tones and
heavy strings of a baritone. It doesn't matter what style, as long as the
high transients get through in the bass strings.
Thanks
Tony D
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Re: Pickups for baritone? - boardjunkie - 11:58 02-12-05
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Are you saying you need more clarity? Maybe single coils or stacked
HBs would fit the bill. Duncan makes a HB with alnico rod magnets
instead of the regular bar mag/slug/screw combination called a "stag
mag". I've heard some and while they are wound on the hot side, they
retain definition due to the rod magnets. More of a single coil bite.
Huge difference in tone.
My favorite neck pos HB is one I make from HB bobbins and alnico rod
magnets. Great stratty spank when split and very articulate in HB mode.
Too bright for bridge use tho.
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Re: Pickups for baritone? - Tony Done - 15:42 03-12-05
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Thanks for the suggestion re alnico slugs. Unfortunately these pickups came
with alnico slugs, and I replaced them with adjustable pole pieces and
ceramic bar magnets - the opposite direction to you :-), and coil taps. In
my case it helped but I don't think that the coils are very good in the low
registers; it sounds fine on the four high strings, and pretty ordinary on
the low two in either HB or single mode. Lowering the pickups improves the
tone a bit, but then I run into string to string balance problems, even with
adjustable pole pieces
In general, it seems to me that heavy electric strings are difficult to pick
up properly, and I wonder how they do it on electric basses. Hot pickups
might just exacerbate the problem, due to their low resonance frequency.
I have a GFS filtertron style single coil pickup I plan on trying. If that
doesn't work, I might try a Phat Cat (SD P90), or just exchange the guitar
for something else.
Tony D
"boardjunkie" <boardjunkie@techie.com> wrote in message
news:1133542697.120627.204700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Are you saying you need more clarity? Maybe single coils or stacked
> HBs would fit the bill. Duncan makes a HB with alnico rod magnets
> instead of the regular bar mag/slug/screw combination called a "stag
> mag". I've heard some and while they are wound on the hot side, they
> retain definition due to the rod magnets. More of a single coil bite.
> Huge difference in tone.
>
> My favorite neck pos HB is one I make from HB bobbins and alnico rod
> magnets. Great stratty spank when split and very articulate in HB mode.
> Too bright for bridge use tho.
>
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Re: Pickups for baritone? - Tony Done - 19:51 03-12-05
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I installed the GFS Filtertron, and I think it sounds good - I hadn't
realised how bad the original OLP pickups were until I installed the GFS in
the bridge and compared it with the neck pickup.
Now I have another choice. Whether to get another GFS for the neck, or,
since I only use this guitar for slide, remove the neck pickup completely,
and install a pickguard with fretboard markers to the 36th fret. I could
also install some GFS active tone controls that I have spare.
Tony D
"Tony Done" <tonydone@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:6rnkf.10140$ea6.7810@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Thanks for the suggestion re alnico slugs. Unfortunately these pickups
> came with alnico slugs, and I replaced them with adjustable pole pieces
> and ceramic bar magnets - the opposite direction to you :-), and coil
> taps. In my case it helped but I don't think that the coils are very good
> in the low registers; it sounds fine on the four high strings, and pretty
> ordinary on the low two in either HB or single mode. Lowering the pickups
> improves the tone a bit, but then I run into string to string balance
> problems, even with adjustable pole pieces
>
> In general, it seems to me that heavy electric strings are difficult to
> pick up properly, and I wonder how they do it on electric basses. Hot
> pickups might just exacerbate the problem, due to their low resonance
> frequency.
>
> I have a GFS filtertron style single coil pickup I plan on trying. If that
> doesn't work, I might try a Phat Cat (SD P90), or just exchange the guitar
> for something else.
>
> Tony D
>
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> "boardjunkie" <boardjunkie@techie.com> wrote in message
> news:1133542697.120627.204700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Are you saying you need more clarity? Maybe single coils or stacked
>> HBs would fit the bill. Duncan makes a HB with alnico rod magnets
>> instead of the regular bar mag/slug/screw combination called a "stag
>> mag". I've heard some and while they are wound on the hot side, they
>> retain definition due to the rod magnets. More of a single coil bite.
>> Huge difference in tone.
>>
>> My favorite neck pos HB is one I make from HB bobbins and alnico rod
>> magnets. Great stratty spank when split and very articulate in HB mode.
>> Too bright for bridge use tho.
>>
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Re: Pickups for baritone? - Mark Davis - 00:11 04-12-05
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