Re: you guys need to read this article - Jared Foster - 11:50 04-12-05
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Consider yourself lucky that you have that kind of service at your local
store...my local store is full of people who have no idea what they are
talking about and will always try to pull a fast one when you are getting
something serviced...
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Jared Foster
"~R" <mo@fo.com> wrote in message
news:8NEkf.9173$N45.1475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> yeah, actually the local guy's price was indeed $20 less than MF
> right off the bat, so that was a nice surprise. Also, as a rare
> treat, they took a trade of a guitar I bought there last april
> and actually gave me a dollar more than I paid for it at their
> store! Two points I consider are
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> 1. GC is 55 miles from me, and if mom&pop went out of business, I
> wouldn't want to haul out there if I broke my last string or drum
> head during a hot jam or recording.
>
> 2. No shipping charges like MF. or extra gas charges like for GC
> (for me at least)
>
> 3. If this guitar I'm buying has any problem at all, these guys
> will take care of it. GC will make you buy the extended service
> plan or else they won't usually touch it. Even then, in my
> experience, they'll want to ship it out to the nearest authorized
> service center.
>
> I bought an Ibanez BTB505 from GC lat January. It was 55 miles
> away from my house. I had this one knob on it that was making a
> little static, just enough to drive someone like me or you crazy.
> So I tried spraying it out several times, to no avail. GC said
> bring it in. I hauled it all the way down there, and the salesman
> I was dealing with a week earlier when I bought it was M.I.A. He
> was fired within a week of that, I heard. They offered to "send
> it out" for me, but I'd pay $40 shipping charges. That's
> rediculous to "send out" a whole bass for a measly pot. They
> wouldn't even order a replacement pot from Ibanez for me. So what
> did I do? I RETURNED the bass and made them order me a whole
> brand new one from the factory. drove a total of 330 miles until
> I got the final bass home.
>
> Local mom&pop would have just given me a new pot. no questions
> asked.
>
>
>
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Dave Van - 12:45 04-12-05
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in article 0mAkf.9110$N45.3998@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, ~R at
mo@fo.com wrote on 12/4/05 5:24 AM:
> I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
> logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
> convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
> local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
>
> http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
>
> Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
> news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
> made me think of this.
>
> ~Rob
>
>
Ed Roman says that it makes no difference to him because he specializes in
things that GC doesn't carry. So why the rant?
I think it's important to remember that Guitar Center started off as a small
independant shop in Hollywood and grew to what it is today because of their
product offering, service, location, smart business decisions and some luck.
Tell me Ed Roman wouldn't trade places with the founder of Guitar Center in
a heartbeat. Wayne Mitchell had 8 stores when he left the company in '83.
Some of the owners and staff people of the small shops around here try to
feed you the same crap as some of the sales people at Guitar Center, they're
just a little more experienced at it. At least something seems to be
exciting and motivating the GC guys. Sometimes walking into a mom & pop
shop around here is like walking into a DMV facility.
DV
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Bruce Morgen - 12:49 04-12-05
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"~R" <mo@fo.com> wrote:
>I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
>logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
>convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
>local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
>
>http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
>
>Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
>news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
>made me think of this.
>
Ed Roman is the sleaziest
low-life egomaniac in the
entire retail music
business, so whatever he
has to say carries zero
credibility.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - §cİİt§ - 12:53 04-12-05
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"PolyMorf" <pfm@pfm.com> wrote in message news:fcBkf.3263$nA2.2158@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>
> ~R wrote:
>> I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
>> logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
>> convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
>> local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
>>
>> http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
>>
>> Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
>> news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
>> made me think of this.
>>
>> ~Rob
>
> There are LEGIONS written about this idiot. IGNORE HIM!
>
> And no, we don't need another ER thread :-)
I wouldn't mind seeing some pics of his daughter in a bikini though..
( . ) ( . )
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Re: you guys need to read this article - EDTHEWARD - 12:54 04-12-05
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Re: you guys need to read this article - §cİİt§ - 13:00 04-12-05
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Nil - 13:04 04-12-05
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Rookie - 13:19 04-12-05
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Fred Marx - 13:33 04-12-05
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~R wrote:
> yeah, actually the local guy's price was indeed $20 less than MF
> right off the bat, so that was a nice surprise. Also, as a rare
> treat, they took a trade of a guitar I bought there last april
> and actually gave me a dollar more than I paid for it at their
> store! Two points I consider are
>
> 1. GC is 55 miles from me, and if mom&pop went out of business, I
> wouldn't want to haul out there if I broke my last string or drum
> head during a hot jam or recording.
>
> 2. No shipping charges like MF. or extra gas charges like for GC
> (for me at least)
>
> 3. If this guitar I'm buying has any problem at all, these guys
> will take care of it. GC will make you buy the extended service
> plan or else they won't usually touch it. Even then, in my
> experience, they'll want to ship it out to the nearest authorized
> service center.
>
> I bought an Ibanez BTB505 from GC lat January. It was 55 miles
> away from my house. I had this one knob on it that was making a
> little static, just enough to drive someone like me or you crazy.
> So I tried spraying it out several times, to no avail. GC said
> bring it in. I hauled it all the way down there, and the salesman
> I was dealing with a week earlier when I bought it was M.I.A. He
> was fired within a week of that, I heard. They offered to "send
> it out" for me, but I'd pay $40 shipping charges. That's
> rediculous to "send out" a whole bass for a measly pot. They
> wouldn't even order a replacement pot from Ibanez for me. So what
> did I do? I RETURNED the bass and made them order me a whole
> brand new one from the factory. drove a total of 330 miles until
> I got the final bass home.
>
> Local mom&pop would have just given me a new pot. no questions
> asked.
>
>
>
top this.. my local "mom and pop" (which is really three guys and a
store front...) has a better selection than the GC's do. OK so GC does
have more ****. **** being the operative term.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Mack - 13:52 04-12-05
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Maybe the government should set up a guitar selling co-operative that
sells at high margins to maintain full employment for people who can't
otherwise add value to the economy. That would be a great idea. But
seriously, if local mom & pop stores want to compete, they have to
compete on service, not on price. I support my local mom&pop store
because they give good tech support and know what they're talking
about. They charge just a little bit more, but I still figure I come
out ahead because of the free set-ups, etc. If they didn't offer that,
I would run to GC in a heartbeat. I'm glad that GC exists, though,
because their presence keeps pricing at the local store honest! As for
Ed Roman, he should move to Myanmar where high margin artisans can
survive in a command economy.
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