Re: you guys need to read this article - Thad - 14:19 04-12-05
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Re: you guys need to read this article - John Shaughnessy - 14:31 04-12-05
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All I had to do was read the URL. Ed Roman is one of the shadiest SOBs in
the business. His "rants" are usually about people who refuse to do
business with him, or are unhappy with his work. Believe me, if he could cut
a deal to get his crappy guitars in GC, or franchise his store nationwide,
he'd be ALL about the chain store concept...
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Conservatives are not necessarily stupid,
but most stupid people are conservatives."
- John Stuart Mill
"~R" <mo@fo.com> wrote in message
news:0mAkf.9110$N45.3998@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
> logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
> convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
> local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
>
> http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
>
> Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
> news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
> made me think of this.
>
> ~Rob
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>
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Re: you guys need to read this article - Keith Adams - 14:53 04-12-05
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Intresting post.
If a mom and pops store is ran by industrious ,intellegent people then
a GC right next door isnt going to hurt them at all. Matter of fact it
will be the GC getting hurt because who would you rather deal with?
The inexperienced uncaring help at GC or a guy who knows his
shit,plans on being around tomorrow and wants all of your buisness.
If a mom and pops gets ran out of buisness by a GC then they're
incompetent and in the wrong buisness. If they're smart then they'll
open up right next door and nab the disgruntled people who are leaving
GC cussing. The small guitar shops in L.A. are so busy that their
luthiers are backed up for a year and they can afford to have more
employees than they need. If you've got to starve at first to keep
your store stocked correctly then starve. You'll soon be eating high
off of the hog and shitting in tall cotton.
"~R" <mo@fo.com> wrote in message
news:0mAkf.9110$N45.3998@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
made me think of this.
~Rob
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Re: you guys need to read this article - kitekrazy - 15:57 04-12-05
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~R wrote:
> I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
> logic.<
Next you'll be paying 6 figures for swamp property.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - kitekrazy - 16:03 04-12-05
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~R wrote:
> I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading his
> logic. I was a regular customer at guitar center, but he
> convinced me to order my latest purchase, a $1300 strat, from a
> local music store instead of G.C. You should give this a read:
>
> http://www.edromanguitars.com/rant/chains.htm
>
> Reading the post titled "Guitar Center Report"
> news:66wkf.1614$7b4.445039@twister.southeast.rr.com
> made me think of this.
>
> ~Rob
>
>
You should read the Ed Roman Reports at Harmony Central.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - kitekrazy - 16:06 04-12-05
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Rookie wrote:
>
> So all this BS about "supporting small stores and firms" is a total lie.
> Buy what is the best quality within your budget and have no remorse for
> anyone. You are not supposed to pay hard earned cash to buy inferior
> quality because you "have" to support some local asshole.<
I know a small store who prices their products exactly as Sam Ash, MF,
GC. They definitely moved their mrechandise.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - kitekrazy - 16:37 04-12-05
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Keith Adams wrote:
> Intresting post.
> If a mom and pops store is ran by industrious ,intellegent people then
> a GC right next door isnt going to hurt them at all. Matter of fact it
> will be the GC getting hurt because who would you rather deal with?
> The inexperienced uncaring help at GC or a guy who knows his
> shit,plans on being around tomorrow and wants all of your buisness.
> If a mom and pops gets ran out of buisness by a GC then they're
> incompetent and in the wrong buisness. If they're smart then they'll
> open up right next door and nab the disgruntled people who are leaving
> GC cussing. The small guitar shops in L.A. are so busy that their
> luthiers are backed up for a year and they can afford to have more
> employees than they need. If you've got to starve at first to keep
> your store stocked correctly then starve. You'll soon be eating high
> off of the hog and shitting in tall cotton.
>
Excellent post. There's a small store down the street who has Squier
Strats priced what GC has for a MIM Strat.
They're still in business.
In reality most music store's income does not rely heavily on
instrument purchases.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - ~R - 17:40 04-12-05
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that is very unfortunate.
"Jared Foster" <lipidquadcab@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7Fkf.601447$_o.579042@attbi_s71...
: Consider yourself lucky that you have that kind of service at
your local
: store...my local store is full of people who have no idea what
they are
: talking about and will always try to pull a fast one when you
are getting
: something serviced...
:
: --
: Jared Foster
:
: "~R" <mo@fo.com> wrote in message
: news:8NEkf.9173$N45.1475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
: > yeah, actually the local guy's price was indeed $20 less than
MF
: > right off the bat, so that was a nice surprise. Also, as a
rare
: > treat, they took a trade of a guitar I bought there last
april
: > and actually gave me a dollar more than I paid for it at
their
: > store! Two points I consider are
: >
: > 1. GC is 55 miles from me, and if mom&pop went out of
business, I
: > wouldn't want to haul out there if I broke my last string or
drum
: > head during a hot jam or recording.
: >
: > 2. No shipping charges like MF. or extra gas charges like for
GC
: > (for me at least)
: >
: > 3. If this guitar I'm buying has any problem at all, these
guys
: > will take care of it. GC will make you buy the extended
service
: > plan or else they won't usually touch it. Even then, in my
: > experience, they'll want to ship it out to the nearest
authorized
: > service center.
: >
: > I bought an Ibanez BTB505 from GC lat January. It was 55
miles
: > away from my house. I had this one knob on it that was making
a
: > little static, just enough to drive someone like me or you
crazy.
: > So I tried spraying it out several times, to no avail. GC
said
: > bring it in. I hauled it all the way down there, and the
salesman
: > I was dealing with a week earlier when I bought it was M.I.A.
He
: > was fired within a week of that, I heard. They offered to
"send
: > it out" for me, but I'd pay $40 shipping charges. That's
: > rediculous to "send out" a whole bass for a measly pot. They
: > wouldn't even order a replacement pot from Ibanez for me. So
what
: > did I do? I RETURNED the bass and made them order me a whole
: > brand new one from the factory. drove a total of 330 miles
until
: > I got the final bass home.
: >
: > Local mom&pop would have just given me a new pot. no
questions
: > asked.
: >
: >
: >
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Re: you guys need to read this article - west - 17:43 04-12-05
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kitekrazy wrote:
> Rookie wrote:
>
>>
>> So all this BS about "supporting small stores and firms" is a total
>> lie. Buy what is the best quality within your budget and have no
>> remorse for anyone. You are not supposed to pay hard earned cash to
>> buy inferior quality because you "have" to support some local asshole.<
>
>
> I know a small store who prices their products exactly as Sam Ash, MF,
> GC. They definitely moved their mrechandise.
I deal with Danny D's in League City, Tx. If Musicians Friend prices a
guitar at xxx dollars, they meet that price. On the tag, not after you
haggle. You get to play the axe before you buy. The employees all play,
and some are very, very good. Most are half my age. Nobody treats me
like their dad, or like I don't know what I'm talking about. They have
an amp tech who isn't learning on my equipment. The owner does beautiful
refrets, if you don't mind waiting your turn. Yes, they are selling the
Christmas Guitars, (same price as everyone else)but they are throwing in
a free setup. Try getting that at Wallymart or Sam's.
Seymour Duncan spent an evening there last August, talking to anyone
who showed up after the store closed. The place was packed with players.
You can buy Duncan pups at GC, but you never meet the owner of the
company there.
GC is 2, 3 miles down the road. Some young employees, but they can't
play worth squat. Don't know anything about their line except what the
manager tells them. Lots of LPs on the wall at list price. Don't ask
about minor differences on the reissues, you might embarass them.
Forget about getting your amp repaired at GC. Oh, and the employees
are just toooo cool for customers in their 50s.
The small stores that deliver the service when your axe or amp is 10,
20 years on, are the ones to buy from. GC is just there to sell you new
stuff.
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Re: you guys need to read this article - ~R - 17:45 04-12-05
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you mean my Swamp Ash farm? It's nice, except for the mosquitos.
(kidding, of course)
~R
"kitekrazy" <pyoungnospam@mfire.com> wrote in message
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: ~R wrote:
: > I surfed in to this guy's site and just got hooked on reading
his
: > logic.<
:
: Next you'll be paying 6 figures for swamp property.
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